Raquel and Katie talk with Tharanga Goonetilleke, a soprano opera singer and TED Fellow who’s expecting her second baby. Tharanga grew up in Sri Lanka before coming to the U.S. to pursue her musical education. We hear about her first day of school on September 11, and discuss being a brown person in the opera house, real talk about labor & delivery, being pregnant and caring for a toddler while physically incapacitated and only allowed Tylenol, and living your life as you like.

(music: www.bensound.com)

Katie and Raquel sit down with a mother and daughter, Debbie and Bailie Slevin, to discuss Debbie’s new book, UnPregnant Pause: Where Are the Babies? We talk about bad marriages, grandpugs, Sheryl Sandberg, choice moms, passing on dating, unfair biology, asshole doctors, and validating— and celebrating— new generations’ choices.

(music: www.bensound.com)